Customer Comments: My wife and I just built an outdoor fireplace to finish off a pergola in our back yard. We had our first fire using a screen and the wind made the area where we sit to watch tv very smokey so we would like to have a matte black framed glass door pair created that our contractor can install. The approx. size of the fireplace is 33 5/8" x 28" (I'll measure this more accurately if we move forward), but the edges are rough so it's to totally even.
We would like the doors to be flush to the front of the fireplace with a mate black frame that outlines the sides and top. We would like 2 symmetrical doors.
Could you take a look at the attached pictures and let me know what you would need up provide a quote? We live in South Florida so we aren't in a huge rush considering it's summer, but I would like to get my back yard wrapped up sooner than later. Thank you!
Our Comments: Here are some examples of glass doors that can be made for outdoor fireplaces like yours and can be burned with the doors closed to help reduce or eliminate smoke. I recommend having the doors made to fit inside the opening. I suggest having the frame made about 1/2" smaller on the top and each side than the smallest dimensions between the stones. Your contractor would then fill the gaps with mortar and the mortar joints will be similar to those around the stones. I also recommend adding an insulated steel mantel to help protect the electronics in your TV from heat.
Tempered vs Ceramic Glass: Tempered glass can handle sustained temperatures up to about 450F without breaking from heat and should be at least 8" from the flames. Ceramic glass can handle temperatures up to about 1450F and can have direct contact with the flames. If you wish to burn fires with the doors closed, I highly recommend upgrading to ceramic glass.
Outdoor Fireplace Materials: Materials designed specifically for outdoor fireplaces will be stainless steel or zinc coated wrought iron. Both of these can be very expensive. Many of my customers seek a balance between price and durability. For example, aluminum holds up well outdoors, but some of the hardware and hinges will eventually rust. Some manufacturers offer an expensive outdoor option that includes stainless steel hardware to overcome this issue, while others may not. Zinc coated wrought holds up well, but the gate mesh or mesh curtains get very expensive in stainless steel and some people will choose normal steel for those components and replace them periodicallly. I will provide pricing for various options so you can find the right balance for you.
Measuring & Installing: Please read the instructions on this page for: How to Measure and Install Glass Doors on a Rock Fireplace.
Fireplace Opening: 33 5/8" W x 28" H
Aluminum is an excellent material for fireplace doors because it does not rust and can handle relatively high temperatures when treated with powder coated finishes. It is not as heavy duty and rugged as steel or wrought iron, but it is the most affordable. Some of the components and hardware are steel and will need to be lubricated or replaced periodically.
Option #1: PW Pendleton Aluminum Clearview Cabinet Fireplace Door in Black with Tempered or Ceramic Glass and Gate Mesh Backup Doors. Does not have stainless steel hardware or hinges, but can be made with ceramic glass.
Option #2: Design Specialties Stiletto Aluminum Clearview Cabinet Fireplace Door in Black with Tempered Glass (Only) and No Mesh. Has stainless steel hardware and hinges, but cannot be made with ceramic glass.
These doors are made from 3/16" thick solid laser cut 304 stainless steel. They are more heavy duty than the less expensive aluminum doors.
Option #3: Hearth Creations Solid Stainless Steel Framed Cabinet Fireplace Door in Matte Black with Tempered or Ceramic Glass and No Mesh. Shown with Black Stainless Steel Insulated Mantel Shelf.
Hand forged by a blacksmith from 1/4" thick solid zinc coated wrought iron with heavy duty gasketed doors for a tighter seal and maximum smoke reduction. Not only are these built to be used, they take on a more rugged natural look for those who appreciate craftsmanship and tasteful details. These doors are commonly ordered with ceramic glass for burning fires with the doors closed on outdoor fireplaces. Made with optional heavy duty 316 marine grade stainless steel gate mesh backup doors.
Option #4: Hand Crafted Wrought Iron Fullview Cabinet Fireplace Door in Burnished Black with Tempered or Ceramic Glass and Heavy Duty 316 Marine Grade stainless steel Gate Mesh Backup Doors.
Option #5: Hand Crafted Porthouse Wrought Iron Framed Cabinet Fireplace Door in Distressed Black with Tempered or Ceramic Glass and Heavy Duty 316 Marine Grade stainless steel Gate Mesh Backup Doors.
1: Cut a straight piece of wood just short of the opening heightInside Fit (see example below): I recommend having the frame fit inside the opening made 1/2" smaller on the top and each side than these two measurements. Once the frame is installed, you can fill the gaps with mortar and the mortar joints will be consistent with the joints between the stones on the rest of the fireplace.
Overlap Fit (see example below): As an alternative, we can make the frame wider so that it overlaps the opening. This will not provide as good a seal, but it is what you requested. If we have it made this way, we will overlap the minumum width and shortest height by 1" on the top and each side. You can fill the gaps with mortar for a better seal, but it will more like an afterthought than the inside fit version.
If you are planning on burning anything in your fireplace, you need to have mesh behind the glass so you can burn a fire with the doors open. You can chooe between gate mesh backup doors and sliding mesh curtains. Functionally, gate mesh performs the best as the wire has smaller holes that sparks cannot get through. Aesthetically, mesh curtains may be preferred because they do not have a vertical center frame that obstructs the view of the fire. When you are not using the fire or you want a complete unobstructed view, they do not stick out like gate mesh doors when they are opened.
We are showing these options on a flat steel bifold door with a satin brass overlay and gray glass.
Tempered vs Ceramic Glass: Tempered glass can handle sustained temperatures up to about 450F without breaking from heat and should be at least 8" from the flames. Ceramic glass can handle sustained temperatures up to about 1450F and be in direct contact with the flames. If you wish to burn fires with the doors closed, I highly recommend upgrading to ceramic glass. Ceramic glass is $800-$2000 more than tempered glass depending on the manufacturer.
Not all doors are available with all of these glass options.
Hearth Creations Finishes
Design Specialties Finishes
Hand Crafted Wrought Iron Finishes
PW Finishes
Stone Manufacturings Trims & Finishes
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Photo #1: With your camera sideways, take a picture directly in front of the fireplace from far enough away to see the entire fireplace floor to ceiling like this.
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Photo #2: With your back to the fireplace, take a picture looking straight out into the room so we can see the decor directly in front of the fireplace.
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